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Episode 55: Interview with David West

In this episode Aaron and Phil talk to David West, our counterpart from Northern Jefferson. We discuss Davids time in the military, his eventual disillusionment and discharge as a conscientious objector,  his film making project known as Buck The System, His involvement with Double Crossed Radio and much much more. We’d like to again thank David for being on the show with us, we had a great time talking to you and learning about how you became an anarchist, we will be waiting to see what you come up with next.

Be sure to Check out Davids different projects here:

Buck The System Youtube

Buck The System Facebook

Buck The System Blogspot

Double Crossed Radio 

Double Crossed Radio Ucy.TV


52: End the War on Drugs, For the Children

This podcast came to us through a Facebook conversation I had with a friend. She had shared a video of a lady nodding out on a public bus which had sadly in a way to shame her become a viral video. My friend had written a quick addendum to the original post about how sad it was and had offhandedly mentioned that the authorities should be called. That statement made me uncomfortable as a self described anarchist because I did not have a come back for it, apart from what I know from my own limited experiences with the drug treatment (read jail) and foster care systems. I decided to look into it and this podcast detailed most of what I found. I would like to caution all listeners to put your children to bed before listening to this and to keep an open mind. What we found was shocking, disgusting and one of the biggest (of course not talked about) failings by the system.

Drug Treatment Info

Where do the children who go to foster care go?

End the drug war for these kids

Another disgusting thing we found while researching this podcast

Episode 51: Interview with Walter Block

We have a very special guest this episode as we interview none other than Walter Block!

Dr. Block is a professor of economics at Loyola University in New Orleans, and is a Senior Fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute.

Listen as Dr. Block discusses how privatization can ensure the maximum prosperity for Jefferson, while still maintaining sound environmental stewardship, should we become our own state.

He also sets the record straight when the New York Times (ick) ran a hit piece about him trying to cherry pick his words out of context to paint him as a racist (hint: he’s not a racist).

Pay a visit Dr. Block’s website here!

Episode 50: The Phil Special

That’s right folks, this episode is all about Phil. Well ok, it’s really about his presentation from last September in Yreka. Make sure to visit us next Thursday for our special interview with the legendary Dr. Walter Block.

-Phil describes a video showing Spontaneous Order

-Phil talks about this video by Dr. Michael Munger of Duke University

-We listen to a speech by the late Dr. Murray Rothbard

-We talk about this recent video from Learn Liberty

-We discuss economic freedom and private property

Episode 48: Return of the Podcast

After a brief hiatus The State of Jefferson Podcast is back! Join Phil, Josh and the new guy Aaron as they tangent and discuss everything from phones to elephants to unions.  This podcast marks another change as well, we stopped editing our cursing so much which means it is more in the PG13 range.

-Aaron is introduced and his role explained

-We talk about Robert and Kayla who crunched the numbers to find that Jefferson would be viable

-A thank you and shout out to Joel Nielsen of The Black Mesa Project for the intro music.

-We have a new and improved website thanks to Timothy Caron 

-Capitalism! We discuss it in depth. Including bailouts,  intellectual property , regulatory capture, etc.

-Silent Circle has a new phone coming out just for those of you who don’t like to be tracked or have your calls and texts listened to or read. (tangent)

-We discuss Walter Block and Free Market Environmentalism

-Learn Liberty and saving the wolves

-Zimbabwe and privately owned elephants

-We discuss the difference between Minarchism and Anarchism

-16 year old boy has testicles ruptured by the police

-The NAP is explained for those who don’t know what it means or have never heard of it

-We share our funny census stories and of course talk about Ron Paul

-42% of people no longer claim to be democrats or republicans

-We discuss developments in the State of Jefferson since our last podcast

-Nicola Tesla is of course discussed

-We discuss unions, especially the Chicago Teachers Union


Episode 42: Conversation with Charles

Fist off, I apologize for the lack of episodes for the past two weeks.  Its been really crazy for both Josh and I and domestic priorities come first.  Since Josh was unavailable to do an episode, I Skype’d with Charles and this is our conversation.

This week Charles and I discuss:

-Jacob Spinney’s video The State is Not Great: How Government Poisons Everything.”

-Government monopolies on services cost more than private firms competing to offer the same service.

-Monopolies are nigh impossible in a free-market.

-The History Channel show “The Men Who Built America.”

-Law and personal responsibility does not imply statism.

-Relying on the government for protection protects no one.

-The current justice system empowers the criminal and make the victims be victimized twice.

-Nuclear plants built on fault lines.

-Government doesn’t need to worry about quality of service when its illegal to stop paying them.

-Geek out session about fusion energy.  And if we had a free-market, we’d be seeing it much sooner (if not already).

-If Jefferson happened and adopted free-market principles, it would force the rest of the country to do likewise.


So basically it keeps coming back to free-market stuff.  Its good though, trust me :)


Please note:  Charles says Carnegie, when he meant Vanderbilt.  He corrected himself partway through.  Don’t judge him, I’ve done the same thing before.


Charles is the administrator for the State of Jefferson Party Facebook page, and a number of other ones about sports, tourism, small business and so forth as it relates to Jefferson.

Josephine County – Support Rural America

Support Rural America

Sheriffs Event in Josephine County, Oregon

A panel of Constitutional Sheriffs speak at a Support Rural America event in Grants Pass, Oregon in Josephine.  Issues regarding water rights, property rights, abusive state and federal agencies and civil liberties are discussed.

Sheriffs that attended this event: Jon Lopey – Siskiyou County, CA, Bob Hudspeth – Wheeler County, OR, Bruce Haney – Trinity County, CA, Dean Wilson – Del Norte County, CA, Mike Poindexter – Modoc County, CA, and hosted by Gil Gilbertson – Josephine County, OR

Event sponsored by:

National Constitutional Sheriffs’ Association

Episode 41: SRA, FEMA, and the State Capital

We’re back and this week Josh and I discuss some highlights from the Sheriffs panel at the last SRA event in Josephine County, including FEMA’s “plan” for what to do with the coastal counties of southern Jefferson in the event of… whatever big disaster might happen.

After that we spend way too much time discussing potential locations for a state capital for Jefferson, which was inspired by you guys over at the SOJ Party Facebook page.  The pro’s and con’s of having the capital in Yreka, Redding, at/inside Mount Shasta, build a new city, have it spread out, or have a virtual capital are all discussed.  Among other things, as per usual.

Somehow we got into a debate over the merits of minimum wage at the end.


SRA Josephine video

Facebook discussion

Episode 40: Interview with Kirk MacKenzie

Ladies and Gentleman, our very first interview! (read, I finally figured out the hardware tricks to make it happen)

This week Kirk MacKenzie joins us to give us the skinny on the Klamath dams issue, the ongoing destruction of our use of natural resources and private property not just in Jefferson, but the whole nation, what got him passionate about it in the first place, a primer on Agenda 21, and offers some great ideas on how to reclaim our rights as farmers, fisherman, miners, loggers and property owners.

Kirk is the founder of Defend Rural America.  Visit his site for more great info where you can learn more about the whats going on with our natural resources, interviews, upcoming events, and what you can do to help.

Please note, the first five minutes of the recorded audio aren’t as good of quality as the rest of the show (I had the cable in the wrong jack, sorry) but I did some audio magic to make it sound the best I can.  Lessons learned for future interviews.

Episode 37: How the West Was Wild

This week we present a side of history you were never taught in school.

In this episode we discuss the Thomas J. DiLorenzo’s article “The Culture of Violence in the American West: Myth versus Reality” how the “Wild West” wasn’t actually wild but, contrary to popular belief, was actually quite peaceful.

That is, until the U.S. government got involved.

Relations between the settlers and the natives, as well as amongst the settlers themselves, were quite agreeable.  The early 1800′s was a period where honest trade, property rights and self governance prevailed over violence and conquest in a time when the U.S. government was all but absent from the frontier lands.  It wasn’t until in the years leading up to the Civil War the government, on the payroll of the railroad corporations, took matters into their own hands that violence, once a rarity, became the norm and relations with the natives crashed and burned.  This also poses to challenge notion that Union were the “good guys” and the Confederacy being the “bad guys” as we’re taught in school.  It really wasn’t so black and white.

So what can we, as Jeffersonians, learn from these events?  Listen in to hear our take on it.

This weeks tangents… well there’s a number of micro-tangents throughout this episode as we reflect on the various factors and events this article discusses.

The article in question appears on the Independent Institute’s website.  The article and citations the author used can be found here.  Read the article, evaluate its sources, and judge for yourself.

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