That’s right folks, this episode is all about Phil. Well ok, it’s really about his presentation from last September in Yreka. Make sure to visit us next Thursday for our special interview with the legendary Dr. Walter Block.
-Phil describes a video showing Spontaneous Order
-We listen to a speech by the late Dr. Murray Rothbard
-We talk about this recent video from Learn Liberty
After a brief hiatus The State of Jefferson Podcast is back! Join Phil, Josh and the new guy Aaron as they tangent and discuss everything from phones to elephants to unions. This podcast marks another change as well, we stopped editing our cursing so much which means it is more in the PG13 range.
-Aaron is introduced and his role explained
-We talk about Robert and Kayla who crunched the numbers to find that Jefferson would be viable
-A thank you and shout out to Joel Nielsen of The Black Mesa Project for the intro music.
-We have a new and improved website thanks to Timothy Caron
-Capitalism! We discuss it in depth. Including bailouts, intellectual property , regulatory capture, etc.
-Silent Circle has a new phone coming out just for those of you who don’t like to be tracked or have your calls and texts listened to or read. (tangent)
-We discuss Walter Block and Free Market Environmentalism
-Learn Liberty and saving the wolves
-Zimbabwe and privately owned elephants
-We discuss the difference between Minarchism and Anarchism
-16 year old boy has testicles ruptured by the police
-The NAP is explained for those who don’t know what it means or have never heard of it
-We share our funny census stories and of course talk about Ron Paul
-42% of people no longer claim to be democrats or republicans
-We discuss developments in the State of Jefferson since our last podcast
-Nicola Tesla is of course discussed
-We discuss unions, especially the Chicago Teachers Union
Fist off, I apologize for the lack of episodes for the past two weeks. Its been really crazy for both Josh and I and domestic priorities come first. Since Josh was unavailable to do an episode, I Skype’d with Charles and this is our conversation.
This week Charles and I discuss:
-Jacob Spinney’s video “The State is Not Great: How Government Poisons Everything.”
-Government monopolies on services cost more than private firms competing to offer the same service.
-Monopolies are nigh impossible in a free-market.
-The History Channel show “The Men Who Built America.”
-Law and personal responsibility does not imply statism.
-Relying on the government for protection protects no one.
-The current justice system empowers the criminal and make the victims be victimized twice.
-Nuclear plants built on fault lines.
-Government doesn’t need to worry about quality of service when its illegal to stop paying them.
-Geek out session about fusion energy. And if we had a free-market, we’d be seeing it much sooner (if not already).
-If Jefferson happened and adopted free-market principles, it would force the rest of the country to do likewise.
So basically it keeps coming back to free-market stuff. Its good though, trust me
Please note: Charles says Carnegie, when he meant Vanderbilt. He corrected himself partway through. Don’t judge him, I’ve done the same thing before.
Charles is the administrator for the State of Jefferson Party Facebook page, and a number of other ones about sports, tourism, small business and so forth as it relates to Jefferson.
Support Rural America
Sheriffs Event in Josephine County, Oregon
A panel of Constitutional Sheriffs speak at a Support Rural America event in Grants Pass, Oregon in Josephine. Issues regarding water rights, property rights, abusive state and federal agencies and civil liberties are discussed.
Sheriffs that attended this event: Jon Lopey – Siskiyou County, CA, Bob Hudspeth – Wheeler County, OR, Bruce Haney – Trinity County, CA, Dean Wilson – Del Norte County, CA, Mike Poindexter – Modoc County, CA, and hosted by Gil Gilbertson – Josephine County, OR
Event sponsored by:
National Constitutional Sheriffs’ Association
We’re back and this week Josh and I discuss some highlights from the Sheriffs panel at the last SRA event in Josephine County, including FEMA’s “plan” for what to do with the coastal counties of southern Jefferson in the event of… whatever big disaster might happen.
After that we spend way too much time discussing potential locations for a state capital for Jefferson, which was inspired by you guys over at the SOJ Party Facebook page. The pro’s and con’s of having the capital in Yreka, Redding, at/inside Mount Shasta, build a new city, have it spread out, or have a virtual capital are all discussed. Among other things, as per usual.
Somehow we got into a debate over the merits of minimum wage at the end.
Ladies and Gentleman, our very first interview! (read, I finally figured out the hardware tricks to make it happen)
This week Kirk MacKenzie joins us to give us the skinny on the Klamath dams issue, the ongoing destruction of our use of natural resources and private property not just in Jefferson, but the whole nation, what got him passionate about it in the first place, a primer on Agenda 21, and offers some great ideas on how to reclaim our rights as farmers, fisherman, miners, loggers and property owners.
Kirk is the founder of Defend Rural America. Visit his site for more great info where you can learn more about the whats going on with our natural resources, interviews, upcoming events, and what you can do to help.
Please note, the first five minutes of the recorded audio aren’t as good of quality as the rest of the show (I had the cable in the wrong jack, sorry) but I did some audio magic to make it sound the best I can. Lessons learned for future interviews.
This week we present a side of history you were never taught in school.
In this episode we discuss the Thomas J. DiLorenzo’s article “The Culture of Violence in the American West: Myth versus Reality” how the “Wild West” wasn’t actually wild but, contrary to popular belief, was actually quite peaceful.
That is, until the U.S. government got involved.
Relations between the settlers and the natives, as well as amongst the settlers themselves, were quite agreeable. The early 1800′s was a period where honest trade, property rights and self governance prevailed over violence and conquest in a time when the U.S. government was all but absent from the frontier lands. It wasn’t until in the years leading up to the Civil War the government, on the payroll of the railroad corporations, took matters into their own hands that violence, once a rarity, became the norm and relations with the natives crashed and burned. This also poses to challenge notion that Union were the “good guys” and the Confederacy being the “bad guys” as we’re taught in school. It really wasn’t so black and white.
So what can we, as Jeffersonians, learn from these events? Listen in to hear our take on it.
This weeks tangents… well there’s a number of micro-tangents throughout this episode as we reflect on the various factors and events this article discusses.
This week we spaced it and completely forgot to actually prepare an episode, so we just winged it, which actually turned out pretty entertaining (and informative!) This week we talk about:
-The new Star Wars movies
-Opinions on Doug Lamalfa’s version of the state flag.
-Ideas regarding a state song.
-Applying MST3K to political debates on TV would make them so much better.
-Paul Ryan and why we don’t trust him.
-Peoples propensity to not descend into violence and chaos in absence of government.
- The left-right paradigm and unelected officials.
-What if we woke up one day and the federal government was gone?
-(lost train of thought)
-What Jefferson can learn from the Conch Republic.
This week Josh and Phil talk about the plight of Gary Harrington of Eagle Point facing jail time for collecting rainwater for fire protection on his own property. A letter regarding suction dredge miners vs. enviro-nuts is read and discussed, and another letter by Senator Doug LaMalfa and Assemblyman Jim Nielsen.
We have a super-tangent this week which probably goes on longer than it should have about LaMalfa’s redesign of the Jefferson state flag (scroll way down for the post) which inadvertently leads to a meltdown of imagination awesomeness, Phil’s experience with a less-than-knowledgeable petitioner, Josh’s idea of what hilarity would ensue of the Governator was still in power and how Jefferson voted regarding the high speed rail (sorry, can’t find the original link).
By Liz Bowen
Support Rural America Publicist
Posted July 20, 2012
All photos by Liz Bowen
From left to right: Humboldt Co. Sheriff Mike Downey, Tehama Co. Sheriff Dave Hencratt, Del Norte Co. Sheriff Dean Wilson, Siskiyou Co. Sheriff Jon Lopey, Modoc Co. Sheriff Mike Poindexter and Mendocino Co. Sheriff Tom Allman participated in a panel during Del Norte Support Rural America Sheriffs’ Event on July 14, 2012 in Crescent City, CA.
Northern California Sheriffs defend public safety
Crescent City, CA – Diverse economic problems and challenges face law enforcement, but in Northern California elected county sheriffs are doing something new by holding regional Town Hall-type meetings to communicate with their citizens. Powerful networking and a broadening of understanding is the result. But there is also an unexpected bonus: An increased respect for sheriffs protecting and working with citizens.
A fifth Support Rural America Sheriffs’ Event, held on July 14, 2012, was hosted by Del Norte County Sheriff Dean Wilson up in the far northern coastal corner of California. Previous regional events have been held in Siskiyou, Modoc, Trinity and Tehama Counties this year.
The next event will be hosted by Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman at the Redwood Empire Fairgrounds in Ukiah on Aug.18, 2012. Time is 10 a.m. Admission is free.
Del Norte Co. Sheriff Dean Wilson
Sheriff Wilson knows full well the implications of economic downturns and the resulting public safety concerns facing his citizens. In March of 2011, the devastating tsunami hitting Japan also took out Crescent City’s harbor infrastructure needed for small commercial fishermen. And government agencies have not been in a hurry to aid the re-building.
Finally, on July 11, 2012, a ceremony was held to celebrate the beginning of re-establishment of desperately needed docks – more than a year after nature’s destruction. Unfortunately, in the 21st century, there are many government agencies with numerous hoops to jump through. Yes, red-tape is humiliatingly slow.
Sheriffs with like-minded frustrations attended this Support Rural America Event from Northern California counties including Siskiyou County Sheriff Jon Lopey, Modoc County Sheriff Mike Poindexter, Humboldt County Sheriff Mike Downey and Tehama County Sheriff Dave Hencratt.
Sheriff Wilson welcomed the audience and began with a statement: “Our issue is public safety, which has always been and shall always be the paramount consideration for government.”
Each man firmly believes his role, as an elected sheriff, is public safety. With rural economies taking hit after hit from unwarranted, but fear-gripping environmental regulations, livelihoods and businesses are on a steep slippery slope downward. As jobs and salaries are lost, each sheriff is noticing an increase in drug and alcohol abuse; also in domestic violence; and abuses of children and the elderly. Problems resulting from a poor economy are now a public safety issue. Crimes are increasing.
Audience before the event.
Not only do elected sheriffs have the job of enforcing the law, but they are responsible for keeping their constituents happy with the job they are doing. Yes, it is a balancing act.
Sheriffs are uniquely an American tradition and these men have sworn with an Oath of Office to defend and protect their citizens “from all enemies, both foreign and domestic.”
Some bureaucrats in high levels of a few state and federal agencies are regulating activities that greatly affect life and livelihoods in rural areas. Citizens facing over-regulations feel attacked from newly-designed agency permits for legal irrigation water, timber harvesting or fishing rights. Escalating fees and gigantic fines are attached to the newly-written codes and regulations.
These sheriffs proudly appreciate the many state and federal agencies, which provide back-up and partnerships for a variety of serious situations. But, new to the equation are unbending over-regulations from environmental agencies stifling business and local economies dragging down revenues needed for public services.
Sheriff Wilson believes there is “hope” in standing on the Constitution as the “law of the land.” Additionally, the Bill of Rights protects liberties and freedoms for the individual. It is under the U.S. Constitution, where local governments are provided equal rights. So these men are speaking out, standing up and claiming their equality to the chagrin of a few government employees, socialists and leftists.
Sheriff Wilson praised his Del Norte County Supervisors for utilizing a legal process called “coordination” to demand equality from state and federal agencies. Through coordination state and federal policy must be “consistent” with local policy. Something Sheriff Wilson said has been ignored for decades.
“Congress recognized local communities and economies,” explained Wilson, when developing the coordination process.
Siskiyou Co. Sheriff Jon Lopey
Siskiyou Sheriff Jon Lopey spoke next lamenting that his county has so many things going on, “we are under siege” from over-regulations. Sheriff Lopey was willing to take the lead with several elected local fire and community districts in demanding federal agencies come to the table and do “coordination” government-to-government.
“There are policies that threaten and destroy rural America,” said Sheriff Lopey, who explained that in the 1970s there were 22 sawmills in Siskiyou County. “Now there are two partially functioning mills.”
Yet, the mountains are full of trees “10 times” the natural amount with fuel-loading extremely heavy – just waiting for decimation by catastrophic fire. Thinning the trees would provide a regional economy, bringing forests back to health allowing more water to flow into streams for fish. But environmental regulations have nearly stopped the harvest of timber.
Recently, Sheriff Lopey was slammed by the Huffington Post blogger Glen Martin, claiming Lopey was above the law, because he is demanding coordination with federal agencies on the potential removal of four well-functioning hydro-electric dams. These dams are situated 200 miles inland on the Klamath River. Eco groups and agency officials claim dam removal will aid salmon runs, which science and scientists can prove is not true, yet perpetuated by restoration grant-loving Non-Governmental-Organizations.
Modoc Co. Sheriff Mike Poindexter
Modoc County Sheriff Mike Poindexter and Tehama County Sheriff Dave Hencratt are also utilizing the “coordination” process addressing the U.S. Forest Service’s plans to reduce roads available for travel. Both sheriffs claim a significant amount of road miles are needed in the Forest Service managed lands for public safety and rescue. Recreationists continue to travel into the back country and there will be fires, natural and man-made, they explained. Both sheriffs said they must have access to and on Forest Service roads. Public lands cannot be closed to the public.
Tehama Co. Sheriff Dave Hencratt
Humboldt Co. Sheriff Mike Downey
Humboldt County Sheriff Mike Downey said, “We are a Republic. We are a country of a rule of law – not of a mob. We are not a Democracy,” bringing shouts and applause from the crowd of 300.
Sheriff Downey said tremendous environmental issues surround the illegal marijuana business and has asked the Environmental Protection Agency for help — to no avail. EPA officials told him the agency only addresses those situations with permits. Illegal pot grows have no such permits.
Then, Sheriff Downey explained there is a chemical used by pot growers, which is toxic and killing the mammal fisher, spotted owls and deer. He also sees huge amounts of silting and sediment washed into streams from the plowed up fields and pads created by the growers. He has reported it to federal agencies. Nothing has been done.
“We are asking you to stand with us,” said Sheriff Downey to the audience, which verbally agreed, rising to their feet in yet another ovation.
Mendocino Co. Sheriff Tom Allman
Mendocino County Sheriff Tom Allman was last in speaking, but not least in passion. He first mentioned this is “not a political year” for the sheriffs involved in these Support Rural America Events. So there is no campaign agenda. Next he said, “We are not going to trample the rights of the citizens we are sworn to protect. We will not turn away from enforcing the law.”
The year 2011was a watershed year for Sheriff Allman, who said pot growing in his county was out of control and he needed help. It is truly a global business, as he explained many arrests have been made on citizens from 14 other countries. Needing more law enforcement support, Sheriff Allman called up neighboring sheriffs and suggested putting together a multi-county Marijuana Eradication Task Force. They did. In just three weeks, more than 632,000 marijuana plants and 57,000 pounds of trash was found and removed by the county sheriff departments.
Sheriff Allman has invited neighboring Constitutional Sheriffs to the sixth Support Rural America Sheriffs’ Event on Aug. 18, 2012 in Ukiah. It is too early to have received confirmation from sheriffs, but if possible they do attend providing needed support. Also, conservative-type of citizens and Tea Party Patriots are so enthused over these sheriffs, some are becoming “groupies” attending as many events as possible. Friendships and networking is expanding.
Solutions to the myriad of over-regulations are evolving and have not yet been found for many issues, but through these Town Hall meetings a “we can do it” attitude is emerging.
After stating, “We will never, never ever give up,” Del Norte Sheriff Dean Wilson took a deep breath, smiled and finished with, “Just look at what we can do together.”
Youtube videos were completed by Phil at State of Jefferson Podcast.com and will also be available on the SupportRuralAmerica.com website, where more information about Constitutional Sheriffs and previous events can be found.
Minister Edwin Fleshman gave the flag salute, prayer and honored veterans.
This fuchsia was five feet tall. They just don’t grow like that — inland.
We really were at the Pacific Ocean in Crescent City, CA.
Thank you Del Norte Sheriff Dean Wilson for hosting a fabulous event.